[App_rpt-users] Question

Steve Gladden steve at michiganbroadband.com
Thu Sep 9 12:12:53 EDT 2010


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> Yeah, kudos to the Steves, Jims, and other really helpful people. Were it
> not for W9SH's help I would have been a lot longer in getting up and
> running with my node. Also thanks to N4IRS and K1LNX, I got to play with
> my node under Debian and change my Echolink announcements from phonetic to
> not phonetic callsigns. And all manner of things. Next project: I want to
> get an HF remote base running, except that my HF rig is an Elecraft
> K2/100. Seems to me it should be easy enough to send commands to it, as
> it's just ascii text over serial, but would need some direction as to what
> to modifry (break?) to make it work. Also, anyone wanna help me with
> either a CM108-based fob or URI cable to connect the K2? I'm all thumbs.
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>
>
>
> On Sep 9, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Bob Brown - WØNQX wrote:
>
>> sorry to have opened this can of worms marshall, nothing personal taken
>> here.
>>
>> yes ,the DMK device, is a quality device and we have used a few of them
>> with great results, so for quality and consistency by all means use the
>> DMK device!
>>
>> but some of our systems are done on a "beer buget" and have been for a
>> great long time and they work quite well,  last long time.
>>
>> so we want to add the App_rpt function to these systems and want to do
>> it on the low cost side. so we use the cm108 based fob.
>>
>> we started out with these devices, learned a lot with these devices and
>> still wish to use these devices, because of cost savings. ( we dont have
>> a dues paying membership in our organization, we do it for the fun of
>> ham radio!)
>>
>> yes maybe we could have bought a couple of DMKs verses the many  10+
>> fobs i have bought. but hey if they all were cm108 based them i would
>> have many usable devices to play with. some were not cm 108 based, some
>> were. so i gambled with my $$,  win some loose some. no big deal.
>>
>> if i knew a bit more on how to make the non standard fobs play with the
>> app_rpt program i would be experimenting with it, but i do not have
>> those skills yet.
>>
>> would some one like to share on how they got the cm108 device to work
>> i would entertain on being shown a how to if possible or a link to where
>> i can study up on this.
>> as i have a few knock off samples to test and play with.
>> i just cannot believe they cannot be made to work the same way as
>> the cm108 device.
>>
>> yes it takes time to compile and test the devices and time i have, in
>> fact several of us here in the kc metro area have time and facilities to
>> test with .  just tell us how it was done...and we can/will start
>> playing....  to come up with a solution.
>> or if jim wants we can ship him the devices we have and he can tell us
>> if it is possible to change the code for these units.
>>
>> i like the fact all i need is PTT, discrimiator and tx audio to make a
>> system work . i could careless about COS/TOS from the radio. this makes
>> an interface real EZ! and the software makes the controller.
>>
>> i am not a programmer but i have learned a lot from the elmers on this
>> list
>> these folks in particular:
>> w9sh
>> n4irs
>> wb6nil
>> kd8b
>> wa6zft
>> and many others.
>>
>> to those i give many thanks for the help & enlightenment.....
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks in Advance
>>
>>    Bob Brown, WØNQX
>>
>>    Kansas City Metro Area
>>
>> Its not how many watts you have,
>> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:34, Marshall Dias <w0otm at w0otm.com> wrote:
>> This is MY opinion and may not be the opinion of the AllStar Team.
>>
>> What is the obsession with these FOBs?  This community has a great
>> source of quality interfaces, and there is NO reason not to utilize
>> them.  DMK doesn't HAVE to provide the URI, but thankfully they do.  For
>> all you who have bought knockoff FOBs with the hopes of them being a
>> CM108, how much money have you wasted? If you are too cheap to buy a
>> URI, go run an EchoStink node!
>>
>> ok, im off my soapbox, thanks
>>
>> md
>>
>>
>> From: "Bob Brown - WØNQX" <bbrown at byrg.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:27 AM
>> To: "Jim Duuuude" <telesistant at hotmail.com>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
>>
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> If you would like samples of some of the ones i have obtained,
>> thinking they were cm-108 based and they were not.....:(
>>
>> i can send you a few for testing & evauation.
>>
>> if it would make the fobs ezer to add since there seems to be a glut of
>> the "clones" out there.
>> i have bought so many of these from the C.H.Ina co via the usual
>> hong-knog souces.
>>
>> i have a few so a wide and varried sample for testing is not a problem
>> they are just cluttering up the desk...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks in Advance
>>
>>    Bob Brown, WØNQX
>>
>>    Kansas City Metro Area
>>
>>    http://sm0kenet.net
>>
>>    http://byrg.net
>>
>>    http://kcm-108dstar.byrg.net
>>
>> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
>>
>> Its not how many watts you have,
>> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:35, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> The CM-108 and its fully compatible cousins (all from C-Media) are still
>> very much
>> in production and available as far as the actual IC goes. As far as
>> pre-made USB soundcards
>> that use these IC's go, yes it is seemingly more difficult to find such
>> things. The CM-108
>> was selected, because, at the time, it was by far the most common IC
>> found in such devices
>> and was of EXTREMELY high quality, reliability, and consistency (not to
>> mention VERY good
>> value!).
>>
>> Nowadays, is there once again, a generalized consensus focused upon some
>> new, different,
>> IC, or are all the available (and inexpensive) USB sound cards pretty
>> much just random??
>> I haven't, nor have I had time to even look lately. If there is, perhaps
>> it would be worthwhile
>> to see if whatever this device is meets the requirements for this
>> application.
>>
>> If there is something worth checking out, I am not adverse to doing so.
>>
>> JIM WB6NIL
>>
>>
>>
>> > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:35:01 -0400
>>
>> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
>> > From: steve at michiganbroadband.com
>> > To: telesistant at hotmail.com
>> > CC: n3fe at repeater.net; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Noted! & I know you are speaking from experience and trying to warn
>> > others as they will end up wasting lots of time.
>> >
>> > Just curious if there are any plans for future support of other tested
>> > & approved sound devices eventually?
>> >
>> > Or do you think the CM108 will be available for years to come?
>> > I'm under the impression they're getting harder & harder to actually
>> find.
>> >
>> > Just curious & thanks.
>> >
>> > Steve
>> > N8LBV
>> >
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>> > > JUST DONT DO IT!!! There is a reason that we dont support regular
>> sound
>> > > cards.
>> > > THEY DONT WORK WORTH A POO! They sound terrible, and are
>> inconsistent.
>> > > Friends dont let friends use internal soundcards to interface to
>> radio
>> > > systems.
>> > >
>> > > JIM WB6NIL
>> > >
>> > > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:08:23 -0400
>> > > From: n3fe at repeater.net
>> > > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
>> > > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
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>> > > I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a
>> > > cm108 chip in it. I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers
>> and
>> > > none of
>> > > them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.
>> > >
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>> > > I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it
>> > > errors our asterisk with a 127 error. Is there anything out there so
>> that
>> > > we
>> > > can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the
>> expensive
>> > > quad
>> > > card?
>> > >
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>> > > Corey N3FE
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