[App_rpt-users] Question

Roger F. Jordan Sr. w4rfj at comcast.net
Thu Sep 9 16:26:12 EDT 2010


My hat is off to the experimenters...  But I have a problem with any ham
being referred to as CHEAP!  Ham radio is a hobby...  and If you want to go
out and spend your hard earned cash for a Cadillac...  by all means do it!!
Some of us like to build and play... so let us have our fun!!  Would you
think it proper if I called you stuck up because you do not care to get into
the nuts and bolts!!

My final statement...  and my Apology to the Steve's and Jim and everyone
here...    

I have found New-Egg to deliver what they advertise...  Just go to
newegg.com and do a search for cm108...  they go for about $17 plus
shipping...  They have the caps installed so that eliminates that cost!

Best 73 to all!

Roger W4RFJ

-----Original Message-----
From: app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at qrvc.com]
On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:37 PM
To: app_rpt mailing list
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question

Yeah, kudos to the Steves, Jims, and other really helpful people. Were it
not for W9SH's help I would have been a lot longer in getting up and running
with my node. Also thanks to N4IRS and K1LNX, I got to play with my node
under Debian and change my Echolink announcements from phonetic to not
phonetic callsigns. And all manner of things. Next project: I want to get an
HF remote base running, except that my HF rig is an Elecraft K2/100. Seems
to me it should be easy enough to send commands to it, as it's just ascii
text over serial, but would need some direction as to what to modifry
(break?) to make it work. Also, anyone wanna help me with either a
CM108-based fob or URI cable to connect the K2? I'm all thumbs. 
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY



On Sep 9, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Bob Brown - WØNQX wrote:

> sorry to have opened this can of worms marshall, nothing personal taken
here. 
>  
> yes ,the DMK device, is a quality device and we have used a few of them
with great results, so for quality and consistency by all means use the DMK
device!
>  
> but some of our systems are done on a "beer buget" and have been for a
great long time and they work quite well,  last long time.
>  
> so we want to add the App_rpt function to these systems and want to do it
on the low cost side. so we use the cm108 based fob.
>  
> we started out with these devices, learned a lot with these devices and
still wish to use these devices, because of cost savings. ( we dont have a
dues paying membership in our organization, we do it for the fun of ham
radio!)
>  
> yes maybe we could have bought a couple of DMKs verses the many  10+ fobs
i have bought. but hey if they all were cm108 based them i would have many
usable devices to play with. some were not cm 108 based, some were. so i
gambled with my $$,  win some loose some. no big deal.
>  
> if i knew a bit more on how to make the non standard fobs play with the
app_rpt program i would be experimenting with it, but i do not have those
skills yet.
>  
> would some one like to share on how they got the cm108 device to work
> i would entertain on being shown a how to if possible or a link to where i
can study up on this.
> as i have a few knock off samples to test and play with. 
> i just cannot believe they cannot be made to work the same way as
> the cm108 device. 
>  
> yes it takes time to compile and test the devices and time i have, in fact
several of us here in the kc metro area have time and facilities to test
with .  just tell us how it was done...and we can/will start playing....  to
come up with a solution.
> or if jim wants we can ship him the devices we have and he can tell us if
it is possible to change the code for these units.
>  
> i like the fact all i need is PTT, discrimiator and tx audio to make a
system work . i could careless about COS/TOS from the radio. this makes an
interface real EZ! and the software makes the controller.
>  
> i am not a programmer but i have learned a lot from the elmers on this
list
> these folks in particular:
> w9sh
> n4irs
> wb6nil
> kd8b
> wa6zft
> and many others.
>  
> to those i give many thanks for the help & enlightenment.....
>  
> 
> --
> Thanks in Advance
> 
>    Bob Brown, WØNQX
> 
>    Kansas City Metro Area
> 
> Its not how many watts you have, 
> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK
> --
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:34, Marshall Dias <w0otm at w0otm.com> wrote:
> This is MY opinion and may not be the opinion of the AllStar Team.
> 
> What is the obsession with these FOBs?  This community has a great source
of quality interfaces, and there is NO reason not to utilize them.  DMK
doesn't HAVE to provide the URI, but thankfully they do.  For all you who
have bought knockoff FOBs with the hopes of them being a CM108, how much
money have you wasted? If you are too cheap to buy a URI, go run an
EchoStink node!
> 
> ok, im off my soapbox, thanks
> 
> md
> 
> 
> From: "Bob Brown - WØNQX" <bbrown at byrg.net>
> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:27 AM
> To: "Jim Duuuude" <telesistant at hotmail.com>
> 
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
> 
> 
> Jim
>  
> If you would like samples of some of the ones i have obtained,
> thinking they were cm-108 based and they were not.....:(
>  
> i can send you a few for testing & evauation.
>  
> if it would make the fobs ezer to add since there seems to be a glut of
the "clones" out there. 
> i have bought so many of these from the C.H.Ina co via the usual hong-knog
souces.
>  
> i have a few so a wide and varried sample for testing is not a problem
> they are just cluttering up the desk...
>  
>  
>  
> 
> --
> Thanks in Advance
> 
>    Bob Brown, WØNQX
> 
>    Kansas City Metro Area
> 
>    http://sm0kenet.net
> 
>    http://byrg.net
> 
>    http://kcm-108dstar.byrg.net
> 
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
> 
> Its not how many watts you have, 
> its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK
> --
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:35, Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com> wrote:
> The CM-108 and its fully compatible cousins (all from C-Media) are still
very much
> in production and available as far as the actual IC goes. As far as
pre-made USB soundcards
> that use these IC's go, yes it is seemingly more difficult to find such
things. The CM-108
> was selected, because, at the time, it was by far the most common IC found
in such devices
> and was of EXTREMELY high quality, reliability, and consistency (not to
mention VERY good
> value!). 
> 
> Nowadays, is there once again, a generalized consensus focused upon some
new, different,
> IC, or are all the available (and inexpensive) USB sound cards pretty much
just random??
> I haven't, nor have I had time to even look lately. If there is, perhaps
it would be worthwhile
> to see if whatever this device is meets the requirements for this
application.
> 
> If there is something worth checking out, I am not adverse to doing so.
> 
> JIM WB6NIL
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:35:01 -0400
> 
> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question
> > From: steve at michiganbroadband.com
> > To: telesistant at hotmail.com
> > CC: n3fe at repeater.net; app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Noted! & I know you are speaking from experience and trying to warn
> > others as they will end up wasting lots of time.
> > 
> > Just curious if there are any plans for future support of other tested
> > & approved sound devices eventually?
> > 
> > Or do you think the CM108 will be available for years to come?
> > I'm under the impression they're getting harder & harder to actually
find.
> > 
> > Just curious & thanks.
> > 
> > Steve
> > N8LBV
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > JUST DONT DO IT!!! There is a reason that we dont support regular
sound
> > > cards.
> > > THEY DONT WORK WORTH A POO! They sound terrible, and are inconsistent.
> > > Friends dont let friends use internal soundcards to interface to radio
> > > systems.
> > >
> > > JIM WB6NIL
> > >
> > > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:08:23 -0400
> > > From: n3fe at repeater.net
> > > To: app_rpt-users at qrvc.com
> > > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have been having a heck of a time trying to find a fob with a
> > > cm108 chip in it. I have 5 fobs here all from different suppliers and
> > > none of
> > > them have the right chip even though they were listed as a cm108.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I had seen a alsaradio channel driver and tried that but it
> > > errors our asterisk with a 127 error. Is there anything out there so
that
> > > we
> > > can use serial/soundcard interfacing instead of a fob or the expensive
> > > quad
> > > card?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Corey N3FE
> > >
> > >
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