[App_rpt-users] RB stability, was: Dial Watchdog Function

Steve Zingman szingman at msgstor.com
Sat Dec 12 17:11:51 EST 2015


Jeff,
To try to narrow the search, what equipment do you use on your remote bases?

Steve

On 12/12/2015 05:01 PM, Jeff Carrier wrote:
> I'm curious as to why allmon would be an issue? I'm running 2 allmon 
> servers which monitor up to 12 nodes with 5 remote bases and have not 
> had issues.  What is the problem that allmon causes?
>
> de K0JSC
>
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Kenneth Grimard <n1dot1 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:n1dot1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     allmon and allmon2 will cause an issue. if you do not use them you
>     will not
>     have the problem steve. it can be made to cause a crash every time
>     when used.
>
>     this is why i have taken the remote base node off the allmon2 page's
>     on dial. and will have to do the same for the acid build also.
>
>     i am working with dial to make the migration to new
>     hardware sooner or later.
>
>     ken n1dot
>
>
>
>     On 12/12/2015 2:25 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
>
>         I don't have any stability issues with the 706 and the basic
>         rpt remote base code.
>         I don't need hamlib. Admittedly, I don't use Aallmon in it.
>         I'll have to try it.
>
>         YMMV
>
>         73, Steve N4IRS
>
>
>         On 12/12/2015 02:20 PM, David McGough wrote:
>
>             Hi Ken,
>
>             Interesting that having allmon2 probe the RB stats causes
>             a Asterisk
>             crash...Back in yesteryear I tried to run a 706mkiig RB
>             using the built-in
>             code and never had good results--YES, it did work. But,
>             Asterisk wasn't
>             stable very long, frequently crashing several times a day,
>             depending on
>             use.  Various serial communications issues with the radio
>             would
>             -sporadically- "knock it for a loop" too. I concluded that
>             their was
>             probably memory getting clobbered somewhere.
>
>             If I disabled the RB command support, the Asterisk stability
>             skyrocketed--uptimes now measured in weeks, months or
>             longer. As an
>             example, here are the stats from one of my RB systems now:
>
>             TX time today....................................: 01:12:27.95
>             TX time since system initialization..............:
>             87:37:42.861
>             Uptime...........................................: 1336:34:22
>
>             It has been up 55 days without any issues....And, as you
>             can see, it gets
>             used--But, I now use hamlib for all RB commands.
>
>
>             73, David KB4FXC
>
>
>             On Sat, 12 Dec 2015, Kenneth Grimard wrote:
>
>                 the crash is caused when accessing the the remote base
>                 node
>                 using the asterisk manager interface via allmon2
>                 by the way.
>
>                 ken n1dot
>
>                 On 12/12/2015 2:02 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
>
>                     Ken,
>                     I now better understand. I'll work on something
>                     that will solve the
>                     restart from crash.
>                     I will also look into what is causing the crash
>                     since I also have a
>                     706 as a remote base.
>
>                     Thanks, Steve
>
>                     On 12/12/2015 01:50 PM, Kenneth Grimard wrote:
>
>                         hi steve
>
>                         the main issue steve is not the fact that
>                         service asterisk restart does not work.
>
>                         but the main issue is that if asterisk crashes
>                         for any reason
>                         it will not restart itself. because of this i
>                         also can not use
>                         cop,1 cop command which is asterisk restart.
>
>                         cop,1 will cause asterisk to exit for restart
>                         but asterisk will
>                         not restart via a watchdog script.
>
>                         safe_asterisk used to do this very nicely but
>                         it has been eliminated.
>                         and you only use the asterisk service script
>                         under systemd.
>
>                         yes the version of the asterisk service script
>                         i have here from the
>                         dial build from about 4 to 5 weeks ago the
>                         service asterisk restart does not work.
>
>                         it force's me to use service asterisk stop to
>                         remove the
>                         asterisk.ctl file from the /var/run and the
>                         the service asterisk start will then work
>                         allowing asterisk
>                         to be restarted proprely.
>
>                         I also have a node setup for remote base mode
>                         using an
>                         ic-706mkiig and sometimes that will cause a
>                         crash with it.
>                         when asterisk is accessed via an allmon2
>                         dashboard.
>
>                         I have had to take the remote base node off of the
>                         allmon2 page to stop this crashing.
>
>                         it will do it every time too.
>                         that is something with the old remote base code
>                         with in app_rpt.c too which has never been fixed.
>
>                         this is why the asterisk auto restart on crash
>                         would be very nice
>
>                         where can i find a new or updated asterisk
>                         service script.
>
>                         can i get it from the rpi2 dial image and put
>                         in the
>                         dial x86 build with out having to re-install
>                         dial x86 image?
>
>                         otherwise for the most part asterisk under
>                         dial has been
>                         fairly stable. but i can make it crash under
>                         certain conditions
>                         which i try to avoid. like using allmon2 to access
>                         the remote base node via the asterisk manager
>                         interface.
>
>                         ken n1dot
>
>
>
>                         On 12/12/2015 1:01 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
>
>                             Ken,
>                             As I posted below I could not recreate
>                             your issue. is there anything
>                             I'm missing?
>
>                             73, Steve
>
>                             root at repeater:~# asterisk -r
>                             Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008
>                             Digium, Inc. and others.
>                             Created by Mark Spencer
>                             <markster at digium.com
>                             <mailto:markster at digium.com>>
>                             Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO
>                             WARRANTY; type 'core show
>                             warranty' for details.
>                             This is free software, with components
>                             licensed under the GNU
>                             General Public
>                             License version 2 and other licenses; you
>                             are welcome to
>                             redistribute it under
>                             certain conditions. Type 'core show
>                             license' for details.
>                             =========================================================================
>
>                             Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently
>                             running on repeater (pid = 4407)
>                             repeater*CLI> rpt cmd 2150 cop 1 2150
>                             repeater*CLI> Killed
>
>                             root at repeater:~# service asterisk restart
>                             root at repeater:~# asterisk -r
>                             Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008
>                             Digium, Inc. and others.
>                             Created by Mark Spencer
>                             <markster at digium.com
>                             <mailto:markster at digium.com>>
>                             Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO
>                             WARRANTY; type 'core show
>                             warranty' for details.
>                             This is free software, with components
>                             licensed under the GNU
>                             General Public
>                             License version 2 and other licenses; you
>                             are welcome to
>                             redistribute it under
>                             certain conditions. Type 'core show
>                             license' for details.
>                             =========================================================================
>
>                             Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently
>                             running on repeater (pid = 4462)
>                             repeater*CLI>
>
>
>
>                             On 12/12/2015 11:50 AM, Kenneth Grimard wrote:
>
>                                 I download the dial release and
>                                 installed it just after is first
>                                 came out
>                                 that was about 4 weeks ago.
>
>                                 now if asterisk crash for any reason
>                                 or if you use the cop,1 cop
>                                 command
>                                 it will not restart is self at all.
>                                 you have to go into an ssh
>                                 shell and issue a
>                                 service asterisk stop then a service
>                                 asterisk start.
>
>                                 the service asterisk restart does not
>                                 work for me on the x86 release.
>
>                                 there seems to be no way for asterisk
>                                 to restart itself after a crash
>                                 or after using the cop,1 cop command.
>
>                                 has there been any updates to the
>                                 asterisk service command
>                                 for systemd to fix this?
>
>                                 ken n1dot
>
>
>
>                                 On 12/12/2015 7:16 AM, Steve Zingman
>                                 wrote:
>
>                                     Neil,
>                                     I misread your message last night.
>                                     I just tested service asterisk
>                                     restart on DIAL x86 restarts a dead
>                                     asterisk. See below.
>
>                                     root at repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax |
>                                     grep asterisk
>                                       1081 ?        Ssl    0:01
>                                     /usr/sbin/asterisk
>                                       1117 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep
>                                     asterisk
>
>                                     root at repeater:/etc/init.d# kill -9
>                                     1081
>
>                                     root at repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax |
>                                     grep asterisk
>                                       1125 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep
>                                     asterisk
>
>                                     root at repeater:/etc/init.d# asterisk -r
>                                     Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999
>                                     - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
>                                     Created by Mark Spencer
>                                     <markster at digium.com
>                                     <mailto:markster at digium.com>>
>                                     Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO
>                                     WARRANTY; type 'core show
>                                     warranty' for details.
>                                     This is free software, with
>                                     components licensed under the GNU
>                                     General Public
>                                     License version 2 and other
>                                     licenses; you are welcome to
>                                     redistribute it under
>                                     certain conditions. Type 'core
>                                     show license' for details.
>                                     =========================================================================
>
>                                     Unable to connect to remote
>                                     asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk.ctl
>                                     exist?)
>
>                                     root at repeater:/etc/init.d# service
>                                     asterisk restart
>
>                                     root at repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax |
>                                     grep asterisk
>                                       1143 ?        Ssl    0:00
>                                     /usr/sbin/asterisk
>                                       1171 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep
>                                     asterisk
>
>                                     root at repeater:/etc/init.d# asterisk -r
>                                     Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999
>                                     - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
>                                     Created by Mark Spencer
>                                     <markster at digium.com
>                                     <mailto:markster at digium.com>>
>                                     Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO
>                                     WARRANTY; type 'core show
>                                     warranty' for details.
>                                     This is free software, with
>                                     components licensed under the GNU
>                                     General Public
>                                     License version 2 and other
>                                     licenses; you are welcome to
>                                     redistribute it under
>                                     certain conditions. Type 'core
>                                     show license' for details.
>                                     =========================================================================
>
>                                     Connected to Asterisk 1519
>                                     currently running on repeater (pid
>                                     = 1143)
>                                     repeater*CLI>
>
>                                     73, Steve N4IRS
>
>                                     On 12/12/2015 12:44 AM, Neil k8it
>                                     wrote:
>
>                                         Steve
>                                         I have been evaluating Dial on
>                                         a Linux PC
>                                         Observations
>                                         1. When asterisk crashes,
>                                         there is no restart or watchdog
>                                         2.this makes debugging very
>                                         difficult
>                                         3.asterisk service mode
>                                         restart does not seem to work
>                                         4. in this mode remote SSH to
>                                         restart is not possible
>                                         Do you have any fixes planned?
>                                         Thanks
>                                         73 Neil Sablatzky  K8IT
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