kuggie at kuggie.com
Wed Jul 6 17:13:48 EDT 2016
On 7/6/2016 4:03 PM, Steve Wright wrote:
> On 07/07/16 01:10, app_rpt-users-request at ohnosec.org wrote:
>> There are a lot of us out here that prefer to run hardened
>> server-grade hardware at remote tower sites rather than Pi's or other
>> small SBC's. --- Jeff
> That's a generalisation - that the RPI3 are unreliable. It'd be nice
> to throw high-end hardware at everything, but if you had a very large
> system to build - I don't think you would be doing that. And we do
> have a very large system to build...
Jeff, Scott and I are involved in a very large system called the WAN
System - Google it. We have spent thousands of dollars on equipment - a
lot of it very high end for reliability. Take the Dell servers for Node
2135 and other major hubs for instance. These were built prior to the
Raspberry Pi 2 and 3.
> Lists aren't about one person building one machine, lists are about
> system-builders assembling a nation - and that process being doable
> with quality dividends, so it is easy for one person to announce costs
> being minimal for one system, but if that single device were
> implemented globally, that would be six or seven figures. That'd be
> nice for those who supplied that device, but I don't think they'll get
Here's what you don't get. This used to cost thousands of dollars per
location, now it's hundreds. I have several ACC controllers and link
stacks now excess to my needs, so believe me, I know.
> I mean to say, app_rpt can, and should, be on every transmit and
> receive interface on every mountaintop. Be honest - conversion of all
> systems is our goal, not because we might, but because of the immense
> flexibility it would forward, without really any effort at all. So
> how to actually get that? Using a $300 box for every TX and RX? No,
> it's not going to happen. Using a <$100 box with four TX and four RX
> interfaces? Just maybe..
You are a cheap ham. I've personally deployed dozens of $200 - 300
computers and $75 radio adapters. It's a hell of a lot cheaper than the
alternatives, and what it used to cost.
I'm not a millionaire - not even close. Building repeaters and
maintaining them is a responsibility that costs money. app_rpt has cut
those costs drastically. Get over spending money on deploying a system
- it's not going to be cheap if you want reliability. I speak from
experience - this isn't just some wild guess. Voting can be done in
XIPAR (zipper) at greatly reduced costs over a few years ago.
Kevin Custer - W3KKC
INAD - WAN - LRS
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