[App_rpt-users] Stepping on toes...

Loren Tedford lorentedford at gmail.com
Mon Jul 11 14:44:27 EDT 2016


Well i am glad to see their is a project in the works I haven't heard any
updates in a few months and was growing concerned I guess I will

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On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:

> There have been discussion as to how to move forward. The people involved
> are the people that will do the work. We can not be "left behind" and the
> tools needed are available. app_rpt is Open Source, Asterisk is Open
> Source. The concepts and methods used by app_rpt are readily apparent. They
> can be re-created.
>
> I think we have beaten the horse to death. An I owned a horse, so no one
> should take offense at as old adage.
>
> 73, Steve N4IRS
> INAD
>
>
> On 7/11/2016 2:33 PM, Loren Tedford wrote:
>
> Well i have a virtualized environment out in a data center environment
> what better way of testing some thing that putting it right out their with
> the rest of the stuff..
>
>
> Now where do we begin? I know absolutely nothing about coding however I do
> know if we don't do some thing fast we will be left behind and the tools
> others may have had available to port their stuff through may not be
> available for us..
>
> I would love work on this project but its not just going to be me alone
> their needs to be others interested in it too... Now moving on how far are
> we to where.. I read some thing awhile back where some one was working on a
> new branch of asterisk not sure how big of a leap it was but it would be
> nice to see us catching up with the more current version of asterisk with
> in a couple of years..
>
> If that project died then where do we start anyone??
>
>
> Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
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> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Steve Zingman < <szingman at msgstor.com>
> szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
>
>> Well,
>> I guess I'm old school, or just old. mail lists give me easy access to
>> information. I don't need multiple programs open. I get it on my phone,
>> tablet and multiple desktops. I've seen forum attempts in the past that
>> have failed.
>>
>> ASL is Open Source.  The way OS software evolves is when someone
>> identifies a need and takes the initiative to act upon that need.  I
>> applaud you for seeing this need, now are you ready for the next step?  Can
>> you define the problem?  The proposed solution in detail?  The steps needed
>> to get there?  How it will be tested?  This is a great idea, now run with
>> it.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> On 7/11/2016 2:18 PM, Loren Tedford wrote:
>>
>> Steve any idea how far we have gotten?? The security threat list is
>> pretty large at the moment..
>> https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-6284/Asterisk.html
>>
>> And honestly the above is probably for more current versions which mean
>> their are probably more threats out their than we really want to think
>> about..
>>
>> All i know is we can't keep running on this version for ever well i don't
>> think we can.. I guess we may get to the point of apt pinning..
>>
>> While i am being honest here.. We should probably one day update the
>> mailing list to more of a forum thread some where with actual details etc..
>> Mailing list seems to be abit old school just my thoughts..
>>
>> Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
>> Phone:
>> Fax:
>> Email:  <lorentedford at gmail.com>lorentedford at gmail.com
>> Email:  <KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com>KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com
>> <http://www.lorentedford.com>http://www.lorentedford.com
>> <http://www.kc9zhv.com>http://www.kc9zhv.com
>> <http://forum.kc9zhv.com>http://forum.kc9zhv.com
>> <http://hub.kc9zhv.com>http://hub.kc9zhv.com
>> <http://ltcraft.net/>http://Ltcraft.net
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Steve Zingman < <szingman at msgstor.com>
>> szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Time, Energy, drive, people. Just to name a few.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/11/2016 2:08 PM, Loren Tedford wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok so what are missing to get the development started on a more current
>>> version of asterisk?? Lets face it 1.4.23 went out of professional service
>>> back in like 2010...
>>>
>>> Just saying we really need to start thinking more about the future now
>>> rather than waiting till we have mass issues across the board..
>>>
>>> Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
>>> Phone:
>>> Fax:
>>> Email:  <lorentedford at gmail.com>lorentedford at gmail.com
>>> Email:  <KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com>KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com
>>> <http://www.lorentedford.com>http://www.lorentedford.com
>>> <http://www.kc9zhv.com>http://www.kc9zhv.com
>>> <http://forum.kc9zhv.com>http://forum.kc9zhv.com
>>> <http://hub.kc9zhv.com>http://hub.kc9zhv.com
>>> <http://Ltcraft.net>http://Ltcraft.net
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Steve Zingman < <szingman at msgstor.com>
>>> szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's going to taker a LOT of work to change versions of Asterisk.
>>>> That's not to say it will not happen.
>>>> I can't re-create you crashes.
>>>> I firewall my boxes to only allow access from trusted addresses for
>>>> ssh. I use a VPN for roaming users. I don't support SIP.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/11/2016 2:02 PM, Loren Tedford wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I suppose while we are stepping on toes I want to ask about the proper
>>>> way of securing a dial box from our wonderful hackers out their.. Been
>>>> using ufw and fail2ban but found out recently nothing is invincible.. any
>>>> thoughts?? By the way any progress on asterisk crashes?? I can't find a
>>>> reason for the crashes in the logs..
>>>>
>>>> Also what is the status on updating asterisk to a more current
>>>> version?? Any issues with that??
>>>>
>>>> Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
>>>> Email:  <lorentedford at gmail.com>lorentedford at gmail.com
>>>> Phone:
>>>> Fax:
>>>> <http://www.lorentedford.com>http://www.lorentedford.com
>>>> <http://kc9zhv.com>http://kc9zhv.com
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Droid Turbo from Verizon wireless network
>>>> On Jul 11, 2016 12:34 PM, "Steve Zingman" < <szingman at msgstor.com>
>>>> szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes,
>>>>> I've seen it before. Ramesh asked the question here and a couple of us
>>>>> had some questions as to his configuration. I think he is in process of
>>>>> gathering info so we can trouble shoot more.
>>>>> I't not hard to get lists confused.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/11/2016 1:30 PM, DuaneVT . wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Steve. You have helped me several times here I believe. Perhaps
>>>>> it was the ARM Allstar list I should have ranted to. As some posts get
>>>>> shared between lists, it is hard not to end up on another list.
>>>>> Here is an example. I felt for the questioner...
>>>>> "Message: 3
>>>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 09:53:39 -0400
>>>>> From: Doug Crompton < <doug at crompton.com>doug at crompton.com>
>>>>> To: ARM Allstar < <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Using "A" and "B" audio outputs using the
>>>>>         DIAL Image on a RPi
>>>>> Message-ID: <BLU171-W25439CF444D3509E8F7BE5BA3E0 at phx.gbl>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>
>>>>> Ramesh,
>>>>>
>>>>>  This is NOT a dial list, ask elsewhere! It works fine on the
>>>>> hamvoip.org code.
>>>>> 73 Doug
>>>>> WA3DSP
>>>>> <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > To:  <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
>>>>> > Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 07:34:57 -0400
>>>>> > Subject: [arm-allstar] Using "A" and "B" audio outputs using the
>>>>> DIAL Image   on a RPi
>>>>> > From:  <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
>>>>> > CC:  <Ramesh at va3uv.com>Ramesh at va3uv.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hi All:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I am using the DIAL Image on a PRi 2; I would like to use the "A" and
>>>>> > "B" audio outputs from my fob (A for voice and B for PL), so that I
>>>>> can
>>>>> > inject them into separate points on my exciter.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I was able to get 2 'discrete' audio outputs when running ACID on a
>>>>> PC.
>>>>> > This doesn't seem to be working with the Pi / DIAL.  Is anyone
>>>>> running
>>>>> > this configuration on a Pi?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thx,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Ramesh.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > # 27919 and a truck load of others!
>>>>> ​"
>>>>>
>>>>> Sheesh, I want to help everyone....
>>>>> Thanks again until my next question HERE,
>>>>> Duane ​
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Steve Zingman <
>>>>> <szingman at msgstor.com>szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Duane,
>>>>>> When were you told on the App_rpt-users list to go elsewhere with
>>>>>> DIAL questions? DIAL is the official distribution for AllStar. Support
>>>>>> questions SHOULD be posted here. I know that other lists limit their
>>>>>> support to THEIR distribution and have curtly told DIAL users to go
>>>>>> elsewhere for support. I do not remember seeing your question on here. If I
>>>>>> missed it, I'm sorry. I TRY to help out with DIAL and general Asterisk
>>>>>> questions when possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73, Steve N4IRS
>>>>>> INAD
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/11/2016 12:42 PM, DuaneVT . wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I too have asked questions here concerning DIAL and been told curtly
>>>>>> to go elsewhere. As DIAL distros have all the files included and interface
>>>>>> to the FOBs and SBCs, where do we draw the line? I have followed all
>>>>>> instructions for installing the software and had fresh boot problems. It
>>>>>> was hard to tell where the problem was, but when I am new to Linux/DIAL and
>>>>>> the whole Allstar project, I looked for guidance where I found discussions.
>>>>>> There is an Allstar Link community on Google+, and you will see I have all
>>>>>> except 1 postings! Crickets.........
>>>>>> Perhaps the moderator/users here could post a list of URLs for
>>>>>> different aspects of AllStar Link so us Newbies would know where to hang
>>>>>> out.
>>>>>> I have had GREAT support from other listers here by direct email
>>>>>> after each post and I sincerely thank all who have taken an interest in
>>>>>> someone who has to learn as we all do.
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>> Duane  KA1LM  #42996
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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