[App_rpt-users] Stepping on toes...

Steve Zingman szingman at msgstor.com
Mon Jul 11 14:40:25 EDT 2016


There have been discussion as to how to move forward. The people 
involved are the people that will do the work. We can not be "left 
behind" and the tools needed are available. app_rpt is Open Source, 
Asterisk is Open Source. The concepts and methods used by app_rpt are 
readily apparent. They can be re-created.

I think we have beaten the horse to death. An I owned a horse, so no one 
should take offense at as old adage.

73, Steve N4IRS
INAD

On 7/11/2016 2:33 PM, Loren Tedford wrote:
> Well i have a virtualized environment out in a data center environment 
> what better way of testing some thing that putting it right out their 
> with the rest of the stuff..
>
>
> Now where do we begin? I know absolutely nothing about coding however 
> I do know if we don't do some thing fast we will be left behind and 
> the tools others may have had available to port their stuff through 
> may not be available for us..
>
> I would love work on this project but its not just going to be me 
> alone their needs to be others interested in it too... Now moving on 
> how far are we to where.. I read some thing awhile back where some one 
> was working on a new branch of asterisk not sure how big of a leap it 
> was but it would be nice to see us catching up with the more current 
> version of asterisk with in a couple of years..
>
> If that project died then where do we start anyone??
>
>
> Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
> Phone:
> Fax:
> Email: lorentedford at gmail.com <mailto:lorentedford at gmail.com>
> Email: KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com <mailto:KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com>
> http://www.lorentedford.com <http://www.lorentedford.com/>
> http://www.kc9zhv.com <http://www.kc9zhv.com/>
> http://forum.kc9zhv.com <http://forum.kc9zhv.com/>
> http://hub.kc9zhv.com <http://hub.kc9zhv.com/>
> http://Ltcraft.net<http://ltcraft.net/>
>
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com 
> <mailto:szingman at msgstor.com>> wrote:
>
>     Well,
>     I guess I'm old school, or just old. mail lists give me easy
>     access to information. I don't need multiple programs open. I get
>     it on my phone, tablet and multiple desktops. I've seen forum
>     attempts in the past that have failed.
>
>     ASL is Open Source.  The way OS software evolves is when someone
>     identifies a need and takes the initiative to act upon that need. 
>     I applaud you for seeing this need, now are you ready for the next
>     step?  Can you define the problem?  The proposed solution in
>     detail?  The steps needed to get there? How it will be tested? 
>     This is a great idea, now run with it.
>
>     Steve
>
>
>     On 7/11/2016 2:18 PM, Loren Tedford wrote:
>>     Steve any idea how far we have gotten?? The security threat list
>>     is pretty large at the moment..
>>     https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-6284/Asterisk.html
>>
>>     And honestly the above is probably for more current versions
>>     which mean their are probably more threats out their than we
>>     really want to think about..
>>
>>     All i know is we can't keep running on this version for ever well
>>     i don't think we can.. I guess we may get to the point of apt
>>     pinning..
>>
>>     While i am being honest here.. We should probably one day update
>>     the mailing list to more of a forum thread some where with actual
>>     details etc.. Mailing list seems to be abit old school just my
>>     thoughts..
>>
>>     Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
>>     Phone:
>>     Fax:
>>     Email: lorentedford at gmail.com <mailto:lorentedford at gmail.com>
>>     Email: KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com <mailto:KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com>
>>     http://www.lorentedford.com
>>     http://www.kc9zhv.com
>>     http://forum.kc9zhv.com
>>     http://hub.kc9zhv.com
>>     http://Ltcraft.net<http://ltcraft.net/>
>>
>>     On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Steve Zingman
>>     <szingman at msgstor.com <mailto:szingman at msgstor.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Time, Energy, drive, people. Just to name a few.
>>
>>
>>         On 7/11/2016 2:08 PM, Loren Tedford wrote:
>>>         Ok so what are missing to get the development started on a
>>>         more current version of asterisk?? Lets face it 1.4.23 went
>>>         out of professional service back in like 2010...
>>>
>>>         Just saying we really need to start thinking more about the
>>>         future now rather than waiting till we have mass issues
>>>         across the board..
>>>
>>>         Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
>>>         Phone:
>>>         Fax:
>>>         Email: lorentedford at gmail.com <mailto:lorentedford at gmail.com>
>>>         Email: KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com <mailto:KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com>
>>>         http://www.lorentedford.com
>>>         http://www.kc9zhv.com
>>>         http://forum.kc9zhv.com
>>>         http://hub.kc9zhv.com
>>>         http://Ltcraft.net
>>>
>>>         On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Steve Zingman
>>>         <szingman at msgstor.com <mailto:szingman at msgstor.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             It's going to taker a LOT of work to change versions of
>>>             Asterisk. That's not to say it will not happen.
>>>             I can't re-create you crashes.
>>>             I firewall my boxes to only allow access from trusted
>>>             addresses for ssh. I use a VPN for roaming users. I
>>>             don't support SIP.
>>>
>>>
>>>             On 7/11/2016 2:02 PM, Loren Tedford wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             I suppose while we are stepping on toes I want to ask
>>>>             about the proper way of securing a dial box from our
>>>>             wonderful hackers out their.. Been using ufw and
>>>>             fail2ban but found out recently nothing is invincible..
>>>>             any thoughts?? By the way any progress on asterisk
>>>>             crashes?? I can't find a reason for the crashes in the
>>>>             logs..
>>>>
>>>>             Also what is the status on updating asterisk to a more
>>>>             current version?? Any issues with that??
>>>>
>>>>             Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
>>>>             Email: lorentedford at gmail.com
>>>>             <mailto:lorentedford at gmail.com>
>>>>             Phone:
>>>>             Fax:
>>>>             http://www.lorentedford.com
>>>>             http://kc9zhv.com
>>>>
>>>>             Sent from Droid Turbo from Verizon wireless network
>>>>
>>>>             On Jul 11, 2016 12:34 PM, "Steve Zingman"
>>>>             <szingman at msgstor.com <mailto:szingman at msgstor.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                 Yes,
>>>>                 I've seen it before. Ramesh asked the question here
>>>>                 and a couple of us had some questions as to his
>>>>                 configuration. I think he is in process of
>>>>                 gathering info so we can trouble shoot more.
>>>>                 I't not hard to get lists confused.
>>>>
>>>>                 Steve
>>>>
>>>>                 On 7/11/2016 1:30 PM, DuaneVT . wrote:
>>>>>                 Thanks Steve. You have helped me several times
>>>>>                 here I believe. Perhaps it was the ARM Allstar
>>>>>                 list I should have ranted to. As some posts get
>>>>>                 shared between lists, it is hard not to end up on
>>>>>                 another list.
>>>>>                 Here is an example. I felt for the questioner...
>>>>>                 "Message: 3
>>>>>                 Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 09:53:39 -0400
>>>>>                 From: Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com
>>>>>                 <mailto:doug at crompton.com>>
>>>>>                 To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
>>>>>                 <mailto:arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>>
>>>>>                 Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Using "A" and "B" audio
>>>>>                 outputs using the
>>>>>                       DIAL Image on a RPi
>>>>>                 Message-ID:
>>>>>                 <BLU171-W25439CF444D3509E8F7BE5BA3E0 at phx.gbl>
>>>>>                 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Ramesh,
>>>>>
>>>>>                  This is NOT a dial list, ask elsewhere! It works
>>>>>                 fine on the hamvoip.org <http://hamvoip.org/> code.
>>>>>                 73 Doug
>>>>>                 WA3DSP
>>>>>                 http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                 > To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
>>>>>                 <mailto:arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
>>>>>                 > Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 07:34:57 -0400
>>>>>                 > Subject: [arm-allstar] Using "A" and "B" audio
>>>>>                 outputs using the DIAL Image   on a RPi
>>>>>                 > From: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
>>>>>                 <mailto:arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
>>>>>                 > CC: Ramesh at va3uv.com <mailto:Ramesh at va3uv.com>
>>>>>                 >
>>>>>                 > Hi All:
>>>>>                 >
>>>>>                 > I am using the DIAL Image on a PRi 2; I would
>>>>>                 like to use the "A" and
>>>>>                 > "B" audio outputs from my fob (A for voice and B
>>>>>                 for PL), so that I can
>>>>>                 > inject them into separate points on my exciter.
>>>>>                 >
>>>>>                 > I was able to get 2 'discrete' audio outputs when
>>>>>                 running ACID on a PC.
>>>>>                 > This doesn't seem to be working with the Pi /
>>>>>                 DIAL.  Is anyone running
>>>>>                 > this configuration on a Pi?
>>>>>                 >
>>>>>                 > Thx,
>>>>>                 >
>>>>>                 > Ramesh.
>>>>>                 >
>>>>>                 > # 27919 and a truck load of others!
>>>>>                 ​"
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Sheesh, I want to help everyone....
>>>>>                 Thanks again until my next question HERE,
>>>>>                 Duane ​
>>>>>
>>>>>                 On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Steve Zingman
>>>>>                 <szingman at msgstor.com
>>>>>                 <mailto:szingman at msgstor.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                     Duane,
>>>>>                     When were you told on the App_rpt-users list
>>>>>                     to go elsewhere with DIAL questions? DIAL is
>>>>>                     the official distribution for AllStar. Support
>>>>>                     questions SHOULD be posted here. I know that
>>>>>                     other lists limit their support to THEIR
>>>>>                     distribution and have curtly told DIAL users
>>>>>                     to go elsewhere for support. I do not remember
>>>>>                     seeing your question on here. If I missed it,
>>>>>                     I'm sorry. I TRY to help out with DIAL and
>>>>>                     general Asterisk questions when possible.
>>>>>
>>>>>                     73, Steve N4IRS
>>>>>                     INAD
>>>>>
>>>>>                     On 7/11/2016 12:42 PM, DuaneVT . wrote:
>>>>>>                     I too have asked questions here concerning
>>>>>>                     DIAL and been told curtly to go elsewhere. As
>>>>>>                     DIAL distros have all the files included and
>>>>>>                     interface to the FOBs and SBCs, where do we
>>>>>>                     draw the line? I have followed all
>>>>>>                     instructions for installing the software and
>>>>>>                     had fresh boot problems. It was hard to tell
>>>>>>                     where the problem was, but when I am new to
>>>>>>                     Linux/DIAL and the whole Allstar project, I
>>>>>>                     looked for guidance where I found
>>>>>>                     discussions. There is an Allstar Link
>>>>>>                     community on Google+, and you will see I have
>>>>>>                     all except 1 postings! Crickets.........
>>>>>>                     Perhaps the moderator/users here could post a
>>>>>>                     list of URLs for different aspects of AllStar
>>>>>>                     Link so us Newbies would know where to hang out.
>>>>>>                     I have had GREAT support from other listers
>>>>>>                     here by direct email after each post and I
>>>>>>                     sincerely thank all who have taken an
>>>>>>                     interest in someone who has to learn as we
>>>>>>                     all do.
>>>>>>                     73,
>>>>>>                     Duane  KA1LM  #42996
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>                     -- 
>>>>>                     "Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about."
>>>>>                     1st Law of Logic
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 -- 
>>>>                 "Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about."
>>>>                 1st Law of Logic
>>>>
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>>>             -- 
>>>             "Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about."
>>>             1st Law of Logic
>>>
>>>
>>
>>         -- 
>>         "Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about."
>>         1st Law of Logic
>>
>>
>
>     -- 
>     "Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about."
>     1st Law of Logic
>
>

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"Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about."
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