[App_rpt-users] Alternative to WebTransceiver java applet

Steve Zingman szingman at msgstor.com
Sat Apr 15 16:31:44 EDT 2017


Actually the discussion amongst the dev team is, if it is replaced, use
HTML5. Again, if.

Sent via smoke signal (AT&T)
On Apr 15, 2017 4:24 PM, Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com> wrote:
If you must have the web transceiver there are ways around the problem -
see -

https://fedoramagazine.org/firefox-npapi-plugins-fedora/

https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Manage-preferences-and-add-ons/Use-the-Java-plugin-to-view-interactive-content-on-websites/ta-p/3244

Perhaps the best way is to install an old browser version just for using
the web transceiver.

but honestly with portable nodes, iaxrpt, the phone portal, sip
connections, echolink, etc. why do we really need it. I can count on one
hand the times I have used it in four years and then only to play. It never
worked that well anyway. Its like Echolink, it uses the computer mic and
speakers and its quality is only as good as those are which often is not
very good. Most everyone now has a smart phone. From it you can ssh into
your node and use iaxrpt, echolink, or other sip application for voice. You
could also build a "radioless" portable node that uses your phone as a
hotspot or add a radio for extended range.

If a user wants to try out Allstar or connect to an Allstar node to talk to
a buddy they could use Echolink by connecting to the many nodes that
support it.

My vote for what it counts would be to take it off allstarlink.org
altogether. If something is not there no one can complain about it not
working!



*73 Doug*

*WA3DSP*

*http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*

On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Doug Kingston <dpk at randomnotes.org> wrote:

> As I am sure many of you are aware, the WebTransceiver has been rendered
> largely useless by the deprecation of Java support in many major browsers.
> Even where it can still be used (e.g. Safari), the process to enable it is
> convoluted and a challenge for many users.  Is there any project underway
> to develop either a standalone app or a modern browser based application in
> HTML5 or JavaScript that will replace this very useful capability.  Lack of
> an authenticated client for general hams to use to access Allstar nodes is
> probably the major impediment to much stronger adoption of Allstar.  With
> the uniformly poor audio quality of Echolink being promulgated by its ease
> of use, we really need an authenticated access method for Allstar that is
> as easy to use as the Echolink clients.
>
> I am willing to help if there is a path forward here.  Is there a better
> list to discuss this?
>
> Lets discuss,
>   -Doug-, KD7DK
>
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