[App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 95, Issue 4

Jeff Carrier k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com
Wed Jan 4 16:53:17 EST 2017


Ubiquiti or Mikrotik radios will do fine as long as you stay away from 2.4
gig.  That should help.  Oddly enough I had some weird GPS issue with 3 of
my sites this morning...not sure what that was about.

Once you get it running you'll love it!

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Kermit Carlson <w9xa at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hello Jeff -
>     In the final configuration the transmitter, master and server
> will be at the same location.  Right now, the master and server
> are at my QTH, and the transmitter is at the "repeater" location
> about 8 miles West.  I have a node for the ISP, which is all
> microwave,  but the path to the repeater site takes me back to the
> ISP TOC about 15 miles SouthEast, through their routing
> back to the repeater.   The fact that the DMR system is having
> a drop-packet issue is a strong indication, the comment about
> the full bandwidth by the ISP indicates that it really is a network
> problem. The GPS is probably fine.
>     It really looks as if we need to establish our own RF links.
>         Thanks again for the help.
>         73, Kermit W9XA
>
>
>
>
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> Not a problem but I'll give credit where credit is due.  Chuck WB9UUS and
> Jim Dixon shared a lot of insight with me regarding my issue.  Running
> RTCM's over the public internet can be a challenge (depending on the ISP
> and if latency remains consistent or not).  Is your  Transmitter and Master
> timing source physically at the same location as the DIAL server?
>
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> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 21:00:32 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Kermit Carlson <w9xa at yahoo.com>
> To: Jeff Carrier <k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com>,        app_rpt mailing list
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> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 95, Issue 1
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> Hello Jeff -
> ???? We are using voted receivers - and it is very interesting thatyou
> mention the network issues causing the dropping which Idescribe as GPS
> drops.
> ??????? I assumed since the error on the serial monitor indicatesthat the
> "GPS ....lost.." followed by "acquiring... xx satellites inview" then
> "establishing.." (I dont recall the actual wording)statements to be caused
> by an interruption of the GPS, or thehandling of the GPS serial by the RTCM
> DSPic.? Duringthe test of the full system last night I noticed over
> two-dozeninterruptions, mostly at the remote transmitter site, that causeda
> lot of problems.? All of the sites are on the same ISP withover 1-Gbs
> bandwidth at all of the sites. I called the ISP this afternon
> and was told that at 7-9PM last night that the POP where theTX was
> located, the bandwidth was full - this makes a lot ofsense now....? ALSO,
> today we noticed that the DMR systemat the site is having refresh and
> registration issues from packetdrop with the C-Bridge, and the ISP
> bandwidth issues still persist.
> ??????? It does appear that the network is a serious limitation untilthe
> next Gb of bandwidth is completed, at least to our transmit"site", slated
> for the next month? So the network is now a known
> problem. I guess that I had mis-interpreted this dropped packet issue
> as a? GPS lock issue. I had been considering running a file on
> the GPS rx serial line along with a file of the console serial to
> see if I can actually correlate the GPS error messages with a
> problem on the rx serial in - but if you have seen this before as
> a result of the network problem, then I will rectify the network issue
> first
> and then see if the GPS errors abate.
> ???????????? I really appreciate this insight !
> ?????????????????????????????? ???? Thanks,
> ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????? 73, Kermit Carlson
> W9XA?????????????????????????? ???????????????????????? Batavia, IL??
> EN-51uu
>
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>       From: Jeff Carrier <k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com>
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> Just curious, how are you sure it's GPS dropping?? I had a similar issue
> and I was sure it was GPS but it wound up being a network issue on a
> network that I was SURE was perfect.? What's your setup?? Voted receivers,
> simulcast transmitters or a standalone RTCM?
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> ? ?1. logrotate (Ken)
> ? ?2. Help needed with RTCM Voter (Kermit Carlson)
> ? ?3. Re: Help needed with RTCM Voter (John Simmons)
> ? ?4. migrating from acid to dial. (Pierre Martel)
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> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 18:27:50 -0500
> From: "Ken" <ke2n at cs.com>
> To: <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] logrotate
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> I have been noticing my nodes getting disconnected at 4:02 AM once a week.
> It seems to coincide with a logrotate operation that happens at the same
> time.? Is this supposed to work this way?? (Version 0.325 running under
> Centos 5.1)
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> From: Kermit Carlson <w9xa at yahoo.com>
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> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Help needed with RTCM Voter
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> Hello All -
> ?????????????? I am having some real problems with a small voting
> systemusing allstarlink and the RTCM.? The biggest problem is that the
> GPSdrops lock at times once every 15 minutes, at other times once every4-5
> hours.? I am using Garmin-18 LVC GPS units with 9600 baud settings.Are
> there others on the list that have had this problem before, and howdid they
> solve the issue ???????????????
> ?????????????????????????????? ????????????? 73, Kermit Carlson W9XA
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> From: John Simmons <jasimmons at pinewooddata.com>
> To: Kermit Carlson <w9xa at yahoo.com>
> Cc: App RPT Users <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Help needed with RTCM Voter
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> I have dealt with similar GPS issues. Usually the LOS is caused either
> by antenna or interference issues. If you are not very close to a high
> power broadcast station and the antenna is fairly clear to the sky,
> double check your antenna connections/connectors, and try a different
> antenna.
>
> 73,
> John NI0K
>
> > Kermit Carlson <mailto:w9xa at yahoo.com>
> > Tuesday, January 03, 2017 10:00 PM
> > Hello All -
> >
> >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I am having some real problems with a small voting system
> > using allstarlink and the RTCM.? The biggest problem is that the GPS
> > drops lock at times once every 15 minutes, at other times once every
> > 4-5 hours.? I am using Garmin-18 LVC GPS units with 9600 baud settings.
> > Are there others on the list that have had this problem before, and how
> > did they solve the issue ?
> >
> >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?73, Kermit Carlson W9XA
> >
> >
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> > Tuesday, December 27, 2016 2:28 PM
> > Thank you Steve. I know you have been a great help to me over the
> > years. I truly believe that you will do a good job keeping Allstar
> > Link alive for the rest of us.
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> > I too spent many hours on the phone with Jim. He would call just to
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> > Tuesday, December 27, 2016 1:17 PM
> > As Steve posted yesterday, we lost not only a visionary, but a friend
> > to many. I've had many long telephone conversations with Jim over the
> > last year. We covered many topics including moving app_rpt forward.
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> > I have taken over managing the project to continue Jim's work and keep
> > it evolving. The first steps are to make sure everything stays
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> > Without that for all intents and purposes, the network goes down. New
> > users continue to signup and new nodes are getting assigned. This has
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> From: Pierre Martel <petem001 at gmail.com>
> To: APP RPT <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] migrating from acid to dial.
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> got a 2 node site with Acid on an old P4 computer. It is working great but
> I need to replace it before it goes down.
>
> I will replace it with a used server computer that is in great shape. a
> proliant with dual nic (gigabit) multiple power supply, ect.. xeon dual cpu
> 8 gig of ram.
>
> I know that it is over kill but it was given to me and I want to connect
> the second nic to a Mesh that we are starting around Montreal and provide
> service from there..
>
> So I need to confirm some stuff..
>
> Can I use the configuration file that I have from the old computer?
> will the node level settings be the same, or do I need to redo the level
> ajustement?
>
> I know that I some files will need to be changed.. can anyone confirm wich
> one?
>
> Thanks for the help
>
> Pierre VE2PF
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