[App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 101, Issue 13

Jeff Carrier k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com
Mon Jul 10 11:25:53 EDT 2017


You can do DPL with TX/RX that have DPL on board using simple usb but I'd
prefer DSP.  IMHO it's cleaner and I was never able to eliminate squelch
bursts using simple usb.  DPL coupled with DSP would probably produce a
nice clean drop when a user or the repeater unkeys.

Half of my question/suggestion was also regarding RTCM based systems.  With
the RTCM you need to use the local CTCSS/DCS decoder but the server
produces the TX CTCSS and sends it up the network.  In a simulcast setup
I'm assuming you would have to have the server generate DCS if there were
to be any overlap areas at all.

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> From: George Csahanin <george at dyb.com>
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> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 101, Issue 10
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> Just recently thinking of this. It actually would be pretty handy.
> Though most just use the pl/dpl encode/decode in the radio and don't use
> the DSP encode and decode in Allstar it might be handy for a few> I have
> a small node consisting of a Motorola P10 talkie where I use DSP PL. I
> use PL there. But a real need arises on 900. I have a pair of TKR-901's
> that will be modded for the ham band using someone else's code to allow
> programming of the synthesizers. But DPL seems to be a better choice on
> 900 and the TKR-901 has zero PL circuitry, its basically a receiver and
> transmitter, carrier squelch. A perfect candidate for USBRADIO. But
> really needs DPL.
>
> But I defer to the code writers. This may not be trivial to do and may
> be more of a distraction.
>
> But a neat idea.
>
> GeorgeC
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>
> On 7/10/2017 8:50 AM, Jeff Carrier wrote:
> > How many on the list would desire DPL support within app_rpt?  Is it
> > worth looking at?  I'm pretty sure this has come up in the past.  For
> > the record, I ask this knowing I'm unable to contribute to the coding
> > of this since I lack that skill set.
> >
> > I personally prefer DPL but I think there are still many older radios
> > lurking that don't have capabilities beyond CTCSS.
> >
> > I also know we've had pretty spirited discussions regarding simulcast
> > on the list.  I'm simulcasting from 4 sites on UHF with unmodified
> > RTCM's and do have some issues in the overlap areas.  I know keeping
> > CTCSS in phase in an analog simulcast system is a challenge so how
> > ugly would DPL be in a simulcast environment?
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > de K0JSC
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 2:09 PM,
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> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 09:28:19 -0500
> From: George Csahanin <george at dyb.com>
> To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 101, Issue 10
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> If the radios you use already do DPL there's no need for it in the
> asterisk code.
>
> GeorgeC
>
> W2DB
>
> 2360
>
>
> On 7/10/2017 9:10 AM, Bryan D. Boyle wrote:
> > I would be all for it; IIRC the XIPR release supports it, so it is
> > doable.
> >
> > I know a lot of the *ahem* experienced rigs don't have the capability
> > (TR-22c with an add-on ctcss board, anyone?), but seems to me that
> > most modern rigs of any consequence (even the cheap asia-pacific rim
> > units have it) will be able to support it.
> >
> > FWIW, I have DCS set up on the analog side of my DR1x on my 2m pair,
> > and It works, on baofeng, wouxuns, kenwood, Yaesu, and batwing ht and
> > mobiles just fine.
> >
> > --
> > Bryan
> > Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of
> > this message.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jul 10, 2017, at 09:50, Jeff Carrier <k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com
> > <mailto:k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> How many on the list would desire DPL support within app_rpt?  Is it
> >> worth looking at?  I'm pretty sure this has come up in the past.  For
> >> the record, I ask this knowing I'm unable to contribute to the coding
> >> of this since I lack that skill set.
> >>
> >> I personally prefer DPL but I think there are still many older radios
> >> lurking that don't have capabilities beyond CTCSS.
> >>
> >> I also know we've had pretty spirited discussions regarding simulcast
> >> on the list.  I'm simulcasting from 4 sites on UHF with unmodified
> >> RTCM's and do have some issues in the overlap areas.  I know keeping
> >> CTCSS in phase in an analog simulcast system is a challenge so how
> >> ugly would DPL be in a simulcast environment?
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >>
> >> de K0JSC
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 2:09 PM,
> >> <app_rpt-users-request at lists.allstarlink.org
> >> <mailto:app_rpt-users-request at lists.allstarlink.org>> wrote:
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> >>
> >>        1. Re: DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org <http://dvswitch.org>)
> >>     offline (Steve Zingman)
> >>        2. Re: OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM mailing
> >>           list. (David Shaw)
> >>        3. Re: OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no more on a ARM mailing
> >>           list. (Andrew Sylthe)
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>     Message: 1
> >>     Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 15:13:01 -0400
> >>     From: Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com
> >>     <mailto:szingman at msgstor.com>>
> >>     To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt
> >>     <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> >>     <mailto:app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>>
> >>     Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] DIAL Download site (dvswitch.org
> >>     <http://dvswitch.org>) offline
> >>     Message-ID: <355bb3bf-b2e0-bba7-d932-8023e49602f4 at msgstor.com
> >>     <mailto:355bb3bf-b2e0-bba7-d932-8023e49602f4 at msgstor.com>>
> >>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"
> >>
> >>     The AllStarLink image files are now available at
> >>     <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/
> >>     <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/>> thanks to Corey N3FE The
> >>     download links have been updated to point to the new location.
> >>     Thanks to Mike KB8ZGL at Virtual Systems, I am moving
> >>     dvswitch.org <http://dvswitch.org> and
> >>     the AllStarLink image mirror to a new state of the art data
> >>     center. The
> >>     new IP address is  for dvswitch.org <http://dvswitch.org> is
> >>     44.103.32.18 I will be moving the
> >>     DNS entries and adding the mirror of the image files. This will be a
> >>     work in progress over the next week.
> >>
> >>     On 07/08/2017 11:53 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
> >>     > As I said before, DVSwitch is having a outage. I am changing
> >>     > providers. In the future we will maintain 2 different DownLoad
> >>     locations.
> >>     > In the meantime, Corey, N3FE has donated space on a solid
> provider.
> >>     > The main AllStarLink page will be updated. In the meantime here
> >>     is one
> >>     > of the new locations:
> >>     >
> >>     > <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/
> >>     <http://3102.repeater.net/AllStarLink/>>
> >>     >
> >>     > 73, Steve N4IRS
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> >>     Message: 2
> >>     Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:59:15 -0700
> >>     From: David Shaw <shawpbx at gmail.com <mailto:shawpbx at gmail.com>>
> >>     To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt
> >>     <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> >>     <mailto:app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>>
> >>     Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no
> more
> >>             on a ARM mailing list.
> >>     Message-ID:
> >>
> >>     <CAH4RvbK5qe0OB-02WTHRn50fHo7i37+dpUD1dp9GOCMWmFayBQ at mail.gmail.com
> >>     <mailto:CAH4RvbK5qe0OB-02WTHRn50fHo7i37%2BdpUD1dp9GOCMWmFayBQ at mail.
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> >>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >>     Who's Source code? Just asking.
> >>
> >>     David
> >>     KE6UPI
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     --
> >>     Thanks, David
> >>
> >>     "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who
> >>     are neither
> >>     inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things
> >>     worse for
> >>     the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to
> >>     encourage
> >>     than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with
> >>     greater
> >>     confidence than an armed one."
> >>     Thomas Jefferson
> >>
> >>     On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Bryan D. Boyle
> >>     <bdboyle at bdboyle.com <mailto:bdboyle at bdboyle.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     > send the email chain with all the insults and legal threats,
> >>     their public
> >>     > refusal to release the source, and all correspondence to the
> >>     Open Source
> >>     > Foundation, whose GPL the source was originally licensed
> >>     under.  Jim had an
> >>     > opinion about people like that...which is why he fought to keep
> >>     it open
> >>     > source.
> >>     >
> >>     > That's what their lawyers' job is; you aren't going to fight
> >>     their massive
> >>     > self-reverential egos over there.
> >>     >
> >>     > (and I really don't care whether they ban me for telling it
> >>     like I see it)
> >>     > --
> >>     > Bryan
> >>     > Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the
> >>     sending of this
> >>     > message.
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     > On Jul 9, 2017, at 13:35, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net
> >>     <mailto:Bryan at bryanfields.net>> wrote:
> >>     >
> >>     > I'm taking this back on list.  It's an important enough
> >>     response to have it
> >>     > here.  You may ignore this thread if you wish.
> >>     >
> >>     > On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     > Neil,
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     > I have taken these comments off list.
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     > At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal
> >>     level,
> >>     >
> >>     > claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that
> >>     statement is
> >>     >
> >>     > absolutely a LIE.
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     > With these statements you are committing criminal libel.
> >>     Whether you you
> >>     >
> >>     > it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom
> >>     routers for
> >>     >
> >>     > several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed
> >>     across 80+
> >>     >
> >>     > Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I
> >>     seriously
> >>     >
> >>     > recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back
> >>     up your
> >>     >
> >>     > statement or retract it.
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     > A person with such contempt for the law should not be lecturing
> >>     others
> >>     > about
> >>     > it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you
> >>     threatening
> >>     > legal
> >>     > action?
> >>     >
> >>     > Release the source, you have no other option.
> >>     >
> >>     > As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the
> >>     finer points
> >>     > of
> >>     > the GPL.  I have to say, as someone who also has a day job with
> >>     a company
> >>     > who
> >>     > builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.
> >>     >
> >>     > 73's
> >>     > --
> >>     > Bryan Fields
> >>     >
> >>     > 727-409-1194 <tel:727-409-1194> <(727)%20409-1194> - Voice
> >>     > http://bryanfields.net
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> >>     Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 15:09:13 -0500
> >>     From: Andrew Sylthe <asylthe at kc9ona.com <mailto:asylthe at kc9ona.com
> >>
> >>     To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt
> >>     <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> >>     <mailto:app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>>
> >>     Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] OFF-LIST Looks like I can't post no
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> >>     Message-ID:
> >>
> >>     <CAMbt3dva5PVZgpc_JpTAWpRS+hcNiGBVD=2qe3pSzJrR2tObsw at mail.gmail.com
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> >>     The source code for Asterisk, DAHDI, app_rpt, and probably others...
> >>
> >>     On Jul 9, 2017 2:59 PM, "David Shaw" <shawpbx at gmail.com
> >>     <mailto:shawpbx at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     > Who's Source code? Just asking.
> >>     >
> >>     > David
> >>     > KE6UPI
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     > --
> >>     > Thanks, David
> >>     >
> >>     > "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who
> >>     are neither
> >>     > inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things
> >>     worse for
> >>     > the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather
> >>     to encourage
> >>     > than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with
> >>     greater
> >>     > confidence than an armed one."
> >>     > Thomas Jefferson
> >>     >
> >>     > On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Bryan D. Boyle
> >>     <bdboyle at bdboyle.com <mailto:bdboyle at bdboyle.com>>
> >>     > wrote:
> >>     >
> >>     >> send the email chain with all the insults and legal threats,
> >>     their public
> >>     >> refusal to release the source, and all correspondence to the
> >>     Open Source
> >>     >> Foundation, whose GPL the source was originally licensed
> >>     under.  Jim had an
> >>     >> opinion about people like that...which is why he fought to
> >>     keep it open
> >>     >> source.
> >>     >>
> >>     >> That's what their lawyers' job is; you aren't going to fight
> their
> >>     >> massive self-reverential egos over there.
> >>     >>
> >>     >> (and I really don't care whether they ban me for telling it
> >>     like I see it)
> >>     >> --
> >>     >> Bryan
> >>     >> Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the
> >>     sending of this
> >>     >> message.
> >>     >>
> >>     >>
> >>     >>
> >>     >> On Jul 9, 2017, at 13:35, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net
> >>     <mailto:Bryan at bryanfields.net>> wrote:
> >>     >>
> >>     >> I'm taking this back on list.  It's an important enough
> >>     response to have
> >>     >> it
> >>     >> here.  You may ignore this thread if you wish.
> >>     >>
> >>     >> On 7/9/17 1:21 PM, David McGough wrote:
> >>     >>
> >>     >>
> >>     >> Neil,
> >>     >>
> >>     >>
> >>     >> I have taken these comments off list.
> >>     >>
> >>     >>
> >>     >> At this point you are taking a childish argument to a criminal
> >>     level,
> >>     >>
> >>     >> claiming a "back door" into the hamvoip distro and that
> >>     statement is
> >>     >>
> >>     >> absolutely a LIE.
> >>     >>
> >>     >>
> >>     >> With these statements you are committing criminal libel.
> >>     Whether you you
> >>     >>
> >>     >> it or not, I am an Internet Business owner and I build custom
> >>     routers for
> >>     >>
> >>     >> several fortune 1000 Companies and have thousands installed
> >>     across 80+
> >>     >>
> >>     >> Countries. Your comments are tarnishing to my reputation. I
> >>     seriously
> >>     >>
> >>     >> recommend that you either promptly come up with proof to back
> >>     up your
> >>     >>
> >>     >> statement or retract it.
> >>     >>
> >>     >>
> >>     >> A person with such contempt for the law should not be
> >>     lecturing others
> >>     >> about
> >>     >> it. I further fail to see why I am copied on this, are you
> >>     threatening
> >>     >> legal
> >>     >> action?
> >>     >>
> >>     >> Release the source, you have no other option.
> >>     >>
> >>     >> As someone building routers, you should be familiar with the
> >>     finer points
> >>     >> of
> >>     >> the GPL.  I have to say, as someone who also has a day job
> >>     with a company
> >>     >> who
> >>     >> builds routers, I've never heard of Internet Technologies.
> >>     >>
> >>     >> 73's
> >>     >> --
> >>     >> Bryan Fields
> >>     >>
> >>     >> 727-409-1194 <tel:727-409-1194> <(727)%20409-1194> - Voice
> >>     >> http://bryanfields.net
> >>     >> _______________________________________________
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