[App_rpt-users] Neophyte user

Mike mm at midnighteng.com
Mon Dec 24 18:47:59 EST 2018


Let me say this, and please know that I am not picking at anyone. No 
disrespect intended.

Running a Open Source Asterisk Server, before you make radios as phone 
extensions,

requires skill and knowledge of Linux operating system,

And the Open source Asterisk Telephony System,

Some, not all know something of programming and or shell scripts.

Some, not all taking this to task also have no electronics knowledge,

Some, not all know something of radio repeater systems. Function and 
terminology.


So, if anyone thinks, when they can't check at least half of those boxes 
above, that this is just going to be easy when you may not know of the 
terminology alone to ask the right questions... think again.

Many volunteers put this together. I too can complain about the lack of 
GREAT documentation but know that it is all work in progress and someone 
has to take their free time to bring that to you. I have taken time to 
contribute to the wiki but find it very messy from the structure of it 
to find anything, let alone add to it.

To fill-in the gaps, we have this email posting board to help each 
other. And admins and authors read and reply also.

If you are not going to use it to get help and understanding when you 
first run into a problem, it then becomes your fault that you don't or 
can't understand your issues.

Personally, I don't have all the answers but nobody has the answers to 
questions that are not asked.

But ask your question.

Include the version of software you are working with,

Include the hardware you are applying it to since a Pi is much different 
than a PC. And a HF remote base is quite different than a repeater.

AND/OR include the method of COR/PTT usb radio type interface etc.

The better you include this info and any 'outside the norm things' you 
are doing,

the more and better the answers you are likely to receive. I don't like 
spending the next 6 emails just to find those things to give you a 
accurate answer and likely, I will not reply. (I may not be alone)

I often give bad answers because it was not clear to me what you have or 
what you are doing with your issue.

Anyway, know that I feel your pain and frustration, that's why I spend 
time paying attention to the mail board and I have better things that 
can be done also.

The only stupid question is the one you don't ask. Everyone here knows 
it is not always so easy. That's why we are here.

Also know I have always said, "if it works out of the box, you learn 
nothing". How do you grow/create your own with that ? You might as well 
pay someone to fix it for you when it's broke or want to create 
something out of the ordinary.

All that said, it has been my personal recommendation for many years 
that if you are a total newb to all of this, to create your server and 
one node that works with dahdi-pseudo channel driver and get network 
connectivity and understand the command structures before you proceed to 
add radio/external ports. Take that for what it is worth in your 
circumstance. Most folks make it harder on themselves to take this all 
in, by trying to do it all at once. And when there is a issue in the 
end, it becomes hard for anyone to figure out at what level the issue is.


My hope is that many of you get in depth with how all this works and 
provide the next level of 'cool stuff' going forward.

...mike/kb8jnm



On 12/23/2018 10:04 PM, Pierre Martel wrote:
> I wonder why I was able to make allstarlink work out right of the box.
>
> Must be cause I was reading the docs and almost all of the post in the 
> mailling list.
> I did ask a few question. But those were very specific if my memory is 
> right...
>
>
>
> Le dim. 23 déc. 2018 à 21:14, Serge Bérubé <ve2abc at ve2abc.com 
> <mailto:ve2abc at ve2abc.com>> a écrit :
>
>     I had the very same  results, after 11 tryes , I get results… well
>     I had to discover( guess)  many things and learn the  linux slang…
>
>     May I help you ?  PM me at ve2abc at ve2abc dot com…
>
>     Best Regards, Serge
>
>     *De :*App_rpt-users
>     [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org
>     <mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org>] *De la part
>     de* Mike
>     *Envoyé :* 23 décembre 2018 10:08
>     *À :* app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>     <mailto:app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>     *Objet :* Re: [App_rpt-users] Neophyte user
>
>     You might start with a specific question and if you wish to
>     provide a statement,
>
>     make it the version of software you are questioning and the
>     hardware you are applying it to.
>
>     You might include what you have accomplished and working so we
>     know where you are.
>
>     That's the best way I know to get help. Ask the group but don't
>     leave them in the blind to 'make guesses' to what you have or want.
>
>     ...mike/kb8jnm
>
>     On 12/23/2018 8:30 AM, AD2TM wrote:
>
>         Over the past year I have been unsuccessful at getting an
>         installation to Allstar Asterisk to function. I even tried
>         the, excuse me, Ham VOIP version and did not have any luck
>         with that either. I have tried the X86 version and the
>         Raspberry version. Yes I installed the X86 version on an old
>         Dell laptop. The Pi version was on a Pi 3, with a 16GB card.
>
>         Is there or can someone create a step by step guide for
>         installation? Do not say all you have to do is follow the
>         setup script. That did not work for me.
>
>         The material on the website is very confusing to me.
>
>         I only want to set up a simple remote base. I have the RMK
>         URI. The radio I am using is a Motorola CDM1500 LS.
>
>         73
>
>         Tom AD2TM
>
>
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