[App_rpt-users] Allstar Node

william howell william-t2 at live.com
Fri Dec 28 00:38:33 EST 2018


Wow, I leave for the holidays and come back to over what appears to be a hundred or so  attacks, insults, threats of lawsuits, etc.... All this started just because I asked a question about sharing the source code and what the diff between the two modules and what have you are.

Thank goodness I have all the knowledge and experiences I do with Asterisk Software there of. I'm also thankful I have over 30+ years in the two-way radio engineering, service/repair, and software development. Cause today I feel I no longer can be of use or want to be of use on this mailing list. Not that I had that much input as I was watching to see if I wanted to be part of this mailing list or not before I invested too much of my time for nothing more than this type of crap. That which I find happens in mailing list subs like this one.

Maybe some day those of you that want to contiue slinging mud, calling people names and threats of lawsuits will get your crap together, learn to work together and realize you are only being destructive when you spew this crap in mailing list submissions like this one. It does no one any good and only makes quality people like myself want to leave and not look back. No doubt you asses will have something negitive to say about this email.


Thank you for allowing me access to this email list, but I will be removing myself shortly.



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From: App_rpt-users <app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org> on behalf of JJC <cummingsj at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 9:04 PM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node

So you are saying that you are attempting to protect Jim’s intellectual property in some way? That same intellectual property that was already released as opensource under the GPL?

Incidentally, what you describe in #2 is precisely the spirit (and legal function) of the GPL to begin with.

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> On Dec 26, 2018, at 18:14, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
>
>
> My reasoning is simple--if private intellectual property is
> unintentionally released, which scenario is least damaging:
>
> 1. A binary blob that can't be easily reverse engineered and can only be
> used in a very specific, limited scope way.
>
> 2. A source code file that once disclosed can be copied by anyone
> in the future, for ever more. Something like:
>
>        void my_secret_spy_function() {
>            //
>            // patented or licensed algorithms
>            //
>            //
>        }
>
>
> I would argue that #1 would be the least damaging to an unknown owner's
> intellectual property rights. At least an attempt has been made to limit
> the damage to any intellectual property, while waiting for the dust to
> clear.
>
> Twenty two months ago, I fully expected a new copyright owner to emerge,
> once Jim's Estate was settled---easing many of my concerns.  Those were
> the claims being made at that time.  Now, with the records of what has
> actually transpired, I really don't know what to think.
>
>
> It's pointless to argue semantics any further.
>
>
> 73, David KB4FXC
>
>
>
>> On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Willem Schreuder wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, David McGough wrote:
>>>
>>> So, what happens if a supposed copyright owner shows up 10 years from now
>>> and says:  "That code or function (or whatever) was never GPL2 and should
>>> never have been released!" ---and they have reasonable proof?
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand the argument.
>>
>> Are you saying that it is not appropriate to share the source, because you
>> are not sure that the it is covered under the GPL?  In that case, are you
>> not opening yourself to greater liability by continuing to modify and use
>> it, if you are not sure whether it is covered by the GPL or not.
>>
>> The whole point of the GPL is that once the code is released under the GPL
>> that there is an explicit grant to EVERYBODY to do with the code as they
>> see fit, the only restriction being that you must continue to share the
>> source.
>>
>> It seems to me that if you comply with the GPL, you have a reasonable
>> argument that you acted in good faith and you can claim innocent
>> infingement, regardless of who the original copyright holder is.
>>
>> If on the other hand it is true that the GPL does not apply, you are quite
>> right to worry about modifying and redistributing the code.
>>
>> I apologize if I misundertood your argument, but I am not following.
>> -Willem
>>
>> ================================================================
>> Dr. Willem A. Schreuder,  President,  Principia Mathematica
>> Address:  445 Union Blvd, Suite 230,  Lakewood, CO  80228, USA
>> Tel: (303) 716-3573   Fax: (303) 716-3575
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