[App_rpt-users] GMRS linked Repeater network using HAMVoIP

Joe Moskalski kc2irv at gmail.com
Tue Feb 12 23:59:49 EST 2019


That and if its cable internet the Telco argument is a moot point since
that is not regulated.

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 6:52 PM mitchmitchell1616 <mitchmitchell1616 at gmail.com
wrote:

> From what I remember,  they didn't want you bypassing the long distance
> carriers by putting telephone calls over the radio connecting a local call
> to RF and terminating to another local call on the far end.  Once IP
> network is involved,  the underlying physical network architecture isn't
> relevant.   Lots of outdated rules still on the books.
>
>
>
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>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: John Heron <jh0932 at gmail.com>
> Date: 2/12/19 10:08 AM (GMT-06:00)
> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] GMRS linked Repeater network using HAMVoIP
>
> If it’s hooked to a telco it’s illegal. If you have DSL or landline or any
> part of the system touches a telco then the whole system is deemed illegal.
>
> All the best, John Heron
> 561-334-6494
> jh0932 at gmail.com
>
>
> > On Feb 11, 2019, at 5:29 PM, fwbray at mminternet.com wrote:
> >
> > Just to clarify, my comments only had to do with whether § 95.1733(a)(8)
> prohibits transmission of any audio received via "wireline" from a remote
> source, such as a voting receiver.  It didn't concern the wisdom or other
> issues that impact the legality of linking or whether one can set up a node
> where the transmitter is keyed remotely over the same "wireline" link that
> carries the audio.
> >
> > The concerns Kirk expressed are legitimate. While there are technical
> ways of dealing with some of them -- such as lock-out receivers -- many
> people who set up links might not implement them.  If one wants to set up a
> linked system, one should take all necessary steps to make sure that it
> operates legally.  However, with any repeater, there's no guarantee that
> all repeater users will be able to hear all local users in the coverage
> area who might be using low power simplex. Similar issues exist with
> amateur radio systems.
> >
> > I'm not sure that "Prepers" etc., would want to depend upon an Internet
> linked system if they thought it through.  Unless you are using independent
> RF links under your own control, VoIP isn't a very robust system during a
> calamity.
> >
> > KE6CD
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 2019-02-11 12:31, Kirk Just Kirk wrote:
> >>
> >> Here is a MAJOR problem....
> >> "GMRS" is a SHARED channel.Each station is to LISTEN in carrier
> >> squelch before transmitting. Since this transmission does not extend
> >> over the VoIP circuit, distant stations can transmit on top of other
> >> local stations, not knowing they are on the channel.To be fully
> >> compliant, each GMRS node would have to listen on the channel for
> >> activity BEFORE keying up!
> >> All it would take is a written complaint against a linked GMRS machine
> >> to result in a violation, a NAL and a cease and desist letter.
> >> Inn reality, GMRS does not need distant linking to fulfill it's
> >> purpose. I know the "Preppers" and "Save the world" types are going to
> >> disagree....but thats the way it is.
> >
> >
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